[z3-five] Re: ~ Zope testing frameworks

[Tres Seaver]

Martijn Faassen wrote:

> Tres Seaver, meet Stefan Holek, and vice versa, if you haven't already. 
> Stefan Holek wrote ZopeTestCase, to be found here:
> 
> http://zope.org/Members/shh/ZopeTestCase
> 
> Tres doesn't need any introduction, I hope. :)
> 
> Tres is used to another testing framework, also apparently in Zope 2, 
> started like this:
> 
> bin/zopectl run Products/Five/tests/test_bridge.py

I am hopeful of extending zopectl to add syntax to do the following:

   $ bin/zopectl test Products.Five # other test.py args, too

which would use the 'test.py' framework, but in the context of the 
configuration and products of the instance.

> Tres is contributing code to Five, yay! However, he got pretty confused 
> by the way we use ZopeTestCase in Five. He couldn't get the tests to 
> run, and furthermore once he used runalltests.py, he reported troubles 
> running the tests in a ZEO environment. I was at a loss, as I'm used to 
> ZopeTestCase.

I never set up an application server instance without ZEO, even in a 
sandbox.  I think ZTC is doing something clever about the database 
(setting up a new DemoStorage over the "real" storage?) which wasn't 
compatible with ZEO.

> You guys will both be at the Plone conference (me too). It might be a 
> good idea for you two to have a chat about test frameworks in Zope, and 
> what can be done to get Tres less confused about writing Five tests, and 
> me less confused about what Tres is doing. I just want everybody to be 
> able to happily contribute code (and thus tests) to Five.

+1 for that.  I would enjoy chatting about how to get the benefits of 
both ZTC and the 'test.py' framework.

> Tres, by the way; the tests you added to Five also run without failures 
> using 'runalltests.py'. Thanks!

You're welcome!  I am very pleased with where Five is going.

Tres.
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