[z3-five] local utilities

[Martijn Faassen]

Martijn Faassen wrote:

> This is a note to discuss what I'm up to, as I think I need help. :) I'm 
> trying to get local utilities (aka tools) working.

Thinking about it some more, I see some fundamental problems in getting 
these to work in Zope 2.7. The primary problem is that many of the 
objects that need to be stored in the Zope 2.7 ZODB are new-style 
objects -- that sounds like it would lead to some persistence problems, 
at least before Zope 2.8. Then again, Sidnei said he had 
directlyProvides working with Five, and isn't an interface a new-style 
object? Perhaps new-style objects can be stored, they just can't be 
mixed with Persistent?

In general, Five hasn't really dealt with *persistent* Zope 3 objects 
before I tried this.

I still haven't given hopes in making local utilities somehow work, but 
perhaps we'll have to take some radical shortcuts in how we'll support 
these. Unfortunately the depths of zope.app.site and the component 
architecture in general make the task rather daunting..

Regards,

Martijn