[railroad-dev] Re: [silva-dev] raildoad and silva q's

[Andy Altepeter]

Hi!

> > I tried posting this to the railroad-dev at codespeak.net list, but the
> > message never went though.
>
> I think it did get through (I saw your retry even :-) I just didn't have
> the time yet to respond and I was just to late to catch you on #railroad...
Sorry, I wasn't being impatient, just confused that I didn't receive the two 
posts to rr-dev.  Hence the cross-post again :-(
>
> > 1)  using a program like cadaver, how can one upload a file and make
> > it available in silva?  No entries get placed in the postgres database
> > so using the 'find' links under the test tab in service_railroad
> > doesn't turn them up.
>
> Indeed. They don't show up, because the CMS (Silva in this case) at the
> moment needs to know about the resource. And there's no way (yet) for
> Railroad to inform Silva about the newly created resources. So, only if you
> create the resource through Silva, Silva knows about its existence.

I think having a 'find and add to cms' function as part of the railroad 
service (not zope), that could be called either by rr proxies or the 
zope/silva rr service, would do half of the above.  I could make an attempt 
an attempt at this...
>
> > 2) How could some items not be owned?  The find tool only searches for
> > unowned objects, but that can't happen if you need to be authenticated
> > before uploading?
>
> The owner of the resource, is the CMS that created it. In other words, if
> you upload something to the RR-server, bypassing the CMS, this resource is
> unowned.

Aah.  So, if I upload using cadaver, using 'find unowned objects' should find 
it?  That's not working for me...is it because they aren't placed in the 
repository according to content type (major/minor)?  I placed some images at 
the root of the repository.

> > 4) How can you search in silva for an object in railroad, and create
> > an asset for it? Do you always need to upload the file using a
> > railroad proxy?
>
> Essentially, yes, you at the moment can only use RR resources within the
> CMS if you have a corresponding proxy object in the CMS.

I suppose the answer is yes, but will there be a method to upload a zip, like 
you can do with assets?
>
> > 5) It would be neat if there could be a silva railroad collection proxy.
> > This object would function like a silva folder (probably implementing
> > the IFolder interface), and allow navigability of the railroad
> > collection.  This would eliminate the need to have individual
> > created-by-hand railroad proxies for each object.  One could forsee
> > extending this into a nice silva-based (with metadata!) image gallery
> > product...
>
> This would be nice indeed!!
>
> You may have noticed the "not yet", "at the moment" and "currently" in my
> answers. RR is still in a fairly early stage of development and most of the
> questions you asked, point to valid use-cases and have been thought of
> before by us and by others. Now its only a matter of finding some time to
> work on these nice ideas...

Is there a roadmap, so I could look at 'next version' items and perhaps 
contribute?

Thanks so much!
Andy

>
> HTH
>
>
> regards,
> jw